[RUSH TRANSCRIPT BELOW] Paola Brown first turned to homeopathy, a form of alternative medicine based on the principle of “like cures like,” after many years of suffering from unbearable bladder pain. She had been diagnosed with interstitial cystitis, a disease with no known cure.

When she went to see one for the first time, among the first things she asked her doctor was: “‘Do I need to believe in this? Because I don’t.’ And my homeopath says: ‘No, you don’t have to believe in this. I just need to find the right remedy.’”

During the interview, she breaks down what homeopathy actually is, where it originated, and why it’s faced regulatory barriers.

In the United States, homeopaths are nationally accredited through the Council of Homeopathic Certification. But the FDA has increased restrictions on homeopathic remedies over the last decade, just at a time when many Americans are starting to seek out new treatment options.

“We are so sick that we are looking for alternatives, and when we find those alternatives, we’re finding that those alternatives are harder and harder to get access to,” Brown says.

Earlier this year, lawmakers introduced the Homeopathic Drug Product Safety, Quality, and Transparency Act. Supporters say it would protect access to homeopathy by creating clearer rules.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

RUSH TRANSCRIPT

Paola Brown, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Paola Brown:

Thank you. I’m so excited to be here.

Mr. Jekielek:

So America is in, unfortunately, a kind of unprecedented crisis when it comes to health. You hear this maxim, okay? On the one hand, the spending is off the charts. And on the other hand, the health outcomes are low, especially when you compare them to the spending on healthcare. So what’s the problem?

Ms. Brown:

I’m a mom, and we are raising by far the sickest generation of children to ever walk the earth. As mothers, and even the millennial moms, we are worse off, and we are so sick and looking for alternatives. When we find those alternatives, we’re finding that they are harder and harder to access.

Mr. Jekielek:

I know in my own life, I’ve actually had to seek what we would call alternative medicine for a number of times because there was nothing in the regular system that was actually helpful. They literally told me, sorry, we can’t help you. That’s when you often go looking for the alternatives. So what is it that happened in your life that caused you to have to go to alternatives?

Ms. Brown:

Okay. My husband worked for an oil company and had amazing health insurance. If I saw an out-of-network doctor, it was covered at 90 percent. So I had so many options, and none of them were working. I started doing alternative medicine, and some of that helped a little bit, but it really didn’t help. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called interstitial cystitis.

The way I describe that to people is I say, okay, think of your bladder. Now light it on fire, turn it inside out, and put it out with a track shoe. That’s what my bladder felt like all day, every day for seven years. It was a nightmare. It even hurt to walk across the room because your body kind of bounces and thumps, and my bladder was just in so much pain. I spent seven years trying the conventional stuff.

They offered me some drugs and some treatments that were kind of scary, and I turned those down. I eventually found homeopathic medicines, and within one month of starting my treatment with a homeopath, they gave me one remedy. It didn’t work, so she adjusted it and tried another one. It didn’t work.Then the third time I tried, it slowly started to work. And within a month, I felt a shift in my bladder, a shift in my symptoms. By the end of that year, I was 90 percent better.

I’m still not perfect, but I am so much better. Then the irony was that about 12 years after I was first offered these treatments by the conventional doctors, I found out that one of the drugs I turned down, the primary drug for my bladder disease, was causing women who were on it for about 15 years to go blind. So, two things kind of came to fruition for me: number one, I’m better with no side effects, and number two, I avoided medications that, at the time, I didn’t know were going to cause a lot of problems for me.

Mr. Jekielek:

Now, why did you avoid those medications that were offered?

Ms. Brown:

Because the side effects of one of them included hair loss, and I’m vain. I didn’t want to lose my hair. I just thought it was not a good thing to take a drug for the rest of my life that caused hair loss. It’s one thing to have cancer temporarily and be on chemo or something, but that didn’t seem right to me.

Mr Jekielek:

I see. Fascinating. So homeopathy, you know, you hear about it from time to time. It sounds kind of crazy, frankly, because you’re diluting something to the point of non-existence. I know very little, okay? But basically, that’s the sense I get, okay? So, why don’t you just kind of start from the beginning, right? First of all, how did you decide to do the homeopathy? Like, I wouldn’t have chosen to do homeopathy necessarily.

Ms. Brown:

I started with all the conventional stuff with my, you know, I went to the Mayo Clinic. I flew all over the country to the best of the best doctors. And it was like one treatment after another was horrible. So that’s kind of how I slowly realized I didn’t want to do this conventional stuff. Then I tried all the other medicine, natural medicine that made sense to me, like acupuncture, herbs, and chiropractic—like all these things—but none of it really helped. A lot of other people say it works, but it wasn’t working for me. So then what did I do? I said, okay, I’m going to try this homeopathic stuff.

And there’s this joke that my homeopath says: they’re the DLRs, the doctors of last resort. And they were my practitioners of last resort. I did know that homeopathy was highly diluted, which made me very skeptical towards it. So one of the first things I asked my homeopath was, do I need to believe in this? because I don’t. I had tried so many things at that point that I was already very discouraged. My homeopath said, no, you don’t have to believe in this. I just need to find the right remedy.

Sure enough, after the third try is when I started seeing a shift. What’s beautiful about homeopathy is that it’s a very old medicine, and there’s a lot of research, a lot of literature on it, and a lot of clinical experience. If the homeopath selects the right remedy, it will act. Essentially, it’s the law of similars. Whatever symptoms something in its crude form can produce in you will cure you in its homeopathic form. In the United States, you don’t make the medicines; you buy them from a pharmacy that’s FDA [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] inspected. It is legally a drug in the United States. Essentially, they’re trying to match a remedy to your symptoms. I believe in empirical evidence, meaning if it helps me, who cares, right? And if it doesn’t harm me, great.

Mr. Jekielek:

So basically, the mechanism, in some ways, is hard to understand why it would work.

Ms. Brown:

I have an analogy. I actually met with the National Institute of Health, their NCCIH [National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health] department. They’re all researchers, and they’re all discussing the mechanism of action. I was like, I know how it works. They all kind of stopped and looked at the one non-researcher in the room. I said, our body is designed to respond to very tiny things like viruses and bacteria. Those are measured in nanometers, very tiny. Our immune system sees these things as invaders and reacts, or sometimes it chooses to ignore them. So we have this very sophisticated mechanism.

Let’s say that you have allergies, and it presents with watery eyes. You have a runny nose, clear, like egg whites. For some odd reason, when you step outside, you feel better. You feel like your nose clears up; you just feel a little bit better. That mirrors the symptoms of if you were to chop up an onion, so you would use homeopathic onion to cure your allergies. This is how I say it works, and this is what I told all the researchers. I said, if your immune system could talk to you, it would say, I’m so sorry about your allergies. We are working overtime to fix this.

But actually, the last round of antibiotics you took kind of deleted the instruction manual on how to treat these allergies. Gut health isn’t great, and we’re just kind of lost. We don’t know what we’re doing, but, you know, we suffer until we figure it out. Then you introduce a homeopathic remedy, onion, which mimics your symptoms. It’s almost like it introduces a false disease to your body. Your body sees these nano-sized particles of onion, and it says, oh, immune system, everybody stop fighting these allergies. We’re getting attacked by an onion.

Your immune system goes to fight the false disease, and what does it cure, almost by accident? The actual disease, because the symptoms are similar. So while it couldn’t figure out the allergies, it reacted to the onion, the homeopathic onion, and triggered an immune response for you to heal yourself. The researchers were very impressed, and they said, we can research that. I said, you should, but I already know this. Since I don’t know how to do scientific research, you guys do it.

Mr. Jekielek:

Does it work?  What I’m trying to understand is, if I understand homeopathy correctly, right, the remedies are catered to your specific body and your specific reality.

Ms. Brown:

Symptoms, and your unique symptoms.

Mr. Jekielek:

Like, it’s not going to be the same for each person, even if it’s allergies for each person.

Ms. Brown:

Yes, because everyone’s allergies present differently. You might have watery eyes, an egg-white runny nose, and feel better when you go outside. My eyes itch and burn, and my ears itch when the pollen is going crazy, you know? So everyone is different. I’ve had my family get the flu. Actually, this was kind of a rough Christmas and spring. We all got the flu, and later we all probably got COVID. One person had a very high fever, exhaustion, and was very thirsty, while the other person just had a drippy, runny nose. That is a little bit of the challenge of homeopathy: you don’t have just one blanket remedy that you give everyone.

Now, there are products out there, like at grocery stores or CVS, that will have something like cold calm, or a product that is for just that. What they do in those products is usually mix together the top remedies, typically for colds or whatever. So that’s an easy way to go.

I tend to just learn homeopathy enough to pick the right remedy for each family member and give them that. The proof is in the pudding. The day I brought home a homeopathy kit with 100 remedies was the last day my family ever took an over-the-counter drug. And I have stories.

We live on a homestead. My husband was stung by a bee. I thought it was an allergic reaction, so I was giving him the remedy for an allergic reaction. He was getting worse slowly over a few days, and I ended up taking him to the doctor. He developed cellulitis, so his entire arm became infected. There was probably some staph on his skin when the bee poked it, and it spread down his arm, moving up towards his lymph nodes.

The doctor said it was going to be very serious if it got to his lymph nodes because it would spread the infection everywhere. He called in the antibiotics, and as we were walking out, he said, by the way, staph infections like this tend to come back. So we’re probably going to look at three to four rounds of antibiotics before this fully clears. My husband kind of looked at me and said, I think we should try homeopathy. Obviously, that’s a more serious situation, and so we worked with our homeopath.

Once we shifted from trying to give him an allergic reaction remedy, which he wasn’t having, to realizing this was a different thing—this was an infection—these were his symptoms. Within 24 hours, we could see he stopped getting worse; he kind of plateaued. The next 24 hours, it started to recede, and the puffiness went down. By the end of the week, the infection was completely gone, and he never got it again.

I was working on our homestead when I cut my hand on some farm equipment. It’s those cuts that don’t bleed that are sometimes the most dangerous because the blood will wash out the cut, and it didn’t bleed. I didn’t think anything of it, so I rinsed it with water. By the end of the day, I had this red line and streaking going down from the cut down my arm. We live in a small town, and I was like, do I go to the hospital or just try a little remedy? I told myself if it’s still bad in the morning, then I'll go in and take proper care.

Mr. Jekielek:

So you’re not against using the normal system.

Ms. Brown:

No, if your arm’s across the street, you should grab it and go to the hospital. I think so. But I also don’t believe in knee-jerk, panic-based reactions. I’m looking at my hand, and I’m like, okay, this can be serious. This needs to turn around pretty quick. So I selected a remedy. By morning, the streaking was gone. Okay, so here we have so many situations where my family’s avoided medications, antibiotics, and our gut health is more intact.

Mr. Jekielek:

So it’s almost like you could think of it for many things as a first line of defense.

Ms. Brown:

Yes.

Mr. Jekielek:

And just you can kind of see where things go. The thing I really like about what you’re talking about is you’re really taking responsibility for your health, like, which is like something I’m very worried about in our culture is that a lot, a lot of people seem to have this idea that the doctor is just going to solve everything.

Ms. Brown:

Let me tell you a story. When COVID hit, we were living overseas in Budapest, and my kids and I were watching this interview that a nurse had done. She was a traveling nurse, and at the hospital, there were all these people coming in, and they were immediately putting them on the respiratory machine. She says, once they got on the respiratory machine, they were going to die because that respiratory machine blows out your lungs and it ruins your lungs. And she says some people are walking in, and she says they’re just coming in, you know, because they’re scared. And there’s all this media hype and there’s all this stress.

So the video ends, and I look at my kids and I said, so what are these people dying of most, you know, the ones that are walking in that are actually doing okay? Not the very sick ones, but the ones that are doing okay. My kids were like, oh, they died of COVID. And I was like, are you sure about that? And then my son says, oh, they died from the machine, like the machine that they got put on. And I said, are you sure about that? And then my third son was afraid because what put them in that situation in the first place was the cascade of treatments that ended up—the nurse said one man survived because he somehow woke up and pulled that machine out and was like, I don’t want to do this.

So I do believe that our culture, our medical system, has trained parents to freak out over fevers when they’re a very natural thing. You just need to be hydrated. With a very young baby, fevers should be a concern. But in general, we’ve learned to freak out and kill a mosquito with a bazooka.

Mr. Jekielek:

I mean, 100 percent, you know, and I'll have to confess here. I only realized what fevers are for, like why they’re a solution to problems in the last few years. And I spent 10 years studying biology, right? Well, I understood fever was just something that you tried to avoid. Like if your body temperature goes up, got to get it down fast, right? That’s what I learned, right?

Ms. Brown:

That’s what doctors say. And they always say to make them more comfortable, and you’re not a good parent. But what I believe is that life is hard.

Mr. Jekielek:

But what are, for the record, what are fevers for?

Ms. Brown:

Fevers exercise your immune system. They teach your immune system how to fight, how to react, because sooner or later, you’re going to have to fight. We saw that with COVID. And the goal of health is not to avoid sickness, but to overcome sickness without being pumped up with drugs and put on medical crutches that you limp along in life with. The goal is to get sick, blossom a fever, fight a good fight, and come out of it with antibodies and a more intelligent immune system. High fevers are known to kill cancer cells.

Mr. Jekielek:

Well, and they also, like a lot of bugs can’t handle the high temperature. I mean, that’s basically, right? So this is, I find it so fascinating, right?

Ms. Brown:

But it’s not just the high temperature because you could get in a sauna. The fever also facilitates the production of antibodies, and it’s raising both arms of the immune system. They’re very important. Actually, like there are so many childhood illnesses where children tend to get high fevers. And after those high fevers, a child can speak more words. They have better hand-eye coordination.

Mr. Jekielek:

Really, this is documented?

Ms. Brown:

Yes, it is.

Mr. Jekielek:

Fascinating.

Ms. Brown:

It is fascinating. And so then we’re wondering, where’s all this ADHD [Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder] coming from? Where are all these learning disabilities coming from? I don’t think you can point it to one thing like fevers, but you add up all the things we’ve done to kids, including suppressing childhood fevers and avoiding normal childhood illnesses. And we get what we get.

Mr. Jekielek:

Yes, that’s, I mean, it’s a start. The whole thing is astonishing.

Ms. Brown:

It is.

Mr. Jekielek:

So let’s go back to homeopathy, right? If someone needs, if someone is, I’m trying to imagine the scenario, like how many homeopathic practitioners are there in America?

Ms. Brown:

I have no idea. We do have national accreditation of homeopathy through the Council of Homeopathic Certification. So that’s a good directory to pull up. It is accredited through the National Commission for Certifying Agencies, so it’s an official accreditation. Most homeopaths just need to interview and speak with you. So it’s not vital for your homeopath to be local to you for you to be treated by one. Actually, my homeopath lives in Africa, in Tanzania. They do like, you know, healthcare services for the people struggling over there. And so that’s a good place to go is the Council for Homeopathic Certification to look one up and get a highly qualified one, you know, look for someone that you think is really well- and make an appointment with them. But it is nice because it is so accessible, and you don’t need to even leave your house.

Mr. Jekielek:

And there’s no downside. If it doesn’t work, it just doesn’t work, you can move on to your normal, is there a downside that I don’t know? Are there side effects, right?

Ms. Brown:

No, there’s no side effects. There’s no documented harm ever from using, you know, properly prepared homeopathic medicines, but properly prepared for any kind of medicine needs to be properly prepared. And what’s really nice about it is, let’s say you’re in a situation where you do need antibiotics. You can still use the homeopathy alongside that, whereas, like herbs and supplements sometimes might interact in a negative way with a medication. In homeopathy, that’s not a concern at all, and you can use them together.

So, for example, if someone’s, you know, God forbid, being treated for something like cancer and they’re taking whatever standard of care treatment is for that, they actually use homeopathy to support with the nausea and to help them have better results with the medication.

Mr. Jekielek:

What about dry eyes from being in front of bright lights in a studio?

Ms. Brown:

Okay, I have bad news for you, because in the United States, we had amazing products that were homeopathic eye drops. Homeopathy typically comes in a little tube with pellets, but it can come in a cream, it can come in eye drops, it can come in ear drops, but the FDA basically blocked all homeopathic eye drops, and as of a little over a year now, you can’t buy those anymore. So there is a product that would help amazingly with your dry eyes. People love it, but it’s no longer available, thanks to the FDA. And I can tell you more about that if you want, but yes.

Mr. Jekielek:

Sure. So what’s the objection? I can see quickly there isn’t a ton of money to be made by large corporations getting that sense here.

Ms. Brown:

It is a smaller industry compared to Big Pharma, the pharmaceutical industry.

Mr. Jekielek:

But is there a mechanism by which pharma could make big money with it?

Ms. Brown:

If you think about my story, I’ve been cured of my disease for going on 23 years. Think about the amount of drugs that I have not taken, you know, the years of weekly, monthly medications that have been lost because I was cured. And so while I don’t think homeopathy takes a big chunk of the market on a monthly basis necessarily, the number of people that are healed and cured by it—you’re losing customers, so maybe something like that.

Mr. Jekielek:

Are they patentable?

Ms. Brown:

They’re not, no.

Mr. Jekielek:

Well, so there we go.

Ms. Brown:

They’re not patentable. So, yeah, exactly. And so, but the FDA, I do think that the FDA has a philosophical objection to homeopathy because I haven’t seen clear evidence of anything that truly they can object to. They’ve made excuses. They’ve done some inflammatory campaigns, but we’ve done FOIA [Freedom of Information Act] requests and nobody’s ever been harmed by homeopathic medicines.

Mr. Jekielek:

What about the eye drops?

Ms. Brown:

Okay, so here’s what happened there. This is a little maddening. So conventional eye drops were contaminated, not homeopathic ones. Conventional eye drops—the manufacturing broke down somewhere and they were contaminated. People had serious adverse events; one woman literally had to get her eyeball removed. So in an abundance of caution, the FDA said we’re taking all eye drops off the market, which I get, but they said homeopathic medicines cannot come back. We’re blocking them at the border.

So the very culprit that caused this problem in the first place had a pathway back, but homeopathic medicines, which are typically made in Europe and France, they get imported here. They were blocked at importation by the FDA and not allowed to come in. So we’ve essentially lost access to the eye drops.

There is a type of homeopathy that is injectable, like injectable, that is done by a physician in the clinical setting. And those are also blocked at the border. Those products had an impeccable track record—something like, I’m not great with numbers, but 125,000 uses over, I forget how many, and zero serious adverse events. Maybe one or two minor ones that were not even a real concern. So it begs the question; it feels like prejudice from the FDA. It doesn’t seem to be coming from any one administration. It seems to be coming from the bureaucrats.

Mr Jekielek:

Because it’s like, you know, you could say if people feel like injecting saline in their eyeball, why shouldn’t they be allowed to inject saline?

Ms. Brown:

Well, maybe don’t inject saline in your eyeball, but yes, you have a right to try things that…

Mr. Jekielek:

But what I mean is that it’s so diluted, right?

Ms. Brown:

Yes. That tends to be the objection. Some of the skeptics will say, well, because homeopathy is so diluted, you’re deceiving the public. But my response to that is you don’t get to infantilize the consumer under the guise of protection. If it works for us, we get to use it. And if the skeptics don’t want to use it, then don’t use it. Keep chewing your tablets and all of your antibiotics and your cough syrups—that’s fine, but let us have access to what we know and think works.

Statistically, people who use homeopathy tend to be more educated, having gone to college. The families who use homeopathy use fewer drugs in their home, so it really bears out that the consumer who uses homeopathy is greatly benefited, and they know what they’re doing and they want to do that instead. So I feel like it’s more philosophical.

We live in a very materialistic society. And the reality is, we need to have a system in the United States that allows for all kinds of medicine: chemical, pharmaceutical drugs, very materialistic, and homeopathic medicines that are highly diluted. If it works, just let us have it.

Mr. Jekielek:

And so there’s actually legislation in that vein that’s sort of out there. Tell me about that.

Ms. Brown:

Homeopathy in the United States has a really cool history. But essentially, I’m president of Americans for Homeopathy Choice. I’m a consumer advocate. We introduced legislation in the House that essentially modernizes the law because homeopathy is a drug. It’s not a supplement. It is legally a drug per the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. So we’re creating a unique pathway for it to enter the market, just like medical devices needed their unique pathway and dietary supplements have had their unique pathway.

We’re modernizing the law to create a unique pathway for homeopathic medicines. We have bipartisan legislation, which we’re really proud of, in the House, and we’re working on the Senate side. Our goal is to just stabilize the law so that the FDA can ensure that these medicines are manufactured correctly and safely, and so the manufacturers can have that predictability on what exactly they need to do to make the FDA happy.

Mr. Jekielek:

Fascinating. But what about studies? So how many studies have there been out there that have tried to test the effectiveness of homeopathy?

Ms. Brown:

I’m not the researcher, as I told the NIH when we met with them, but there have been five meta-analyses. Four of the five showed very positive results for homeopathy. The Swiss government did a big analysis on homeopathy and found it valuable. In India, it is so well used that India actually has the Ayurvedic, homeopathic Ministry of Health specifically for that. They have the allopathic, the conventional one, and they have the homeopathic one. So it has been adopted into national health systems.

In the UK, with the Queen, how long did she live? Well, she had a homeopathic physician her whole life and used homeopathy very heavily. Her son, King Charles, you know, is a big proponent of it. So there is quite a bit of research out there about homeopathic medicines, and those meta-analyses are really great. The coolest research that has been done has been done on animals because one of the things people say is it’s so dilute, so it has to be a placebo effect. Well, then you wouldn’t get results in petri dishes and in animals if that was true. And they do.

What really surprised me when we met with the NCCIH is that sometimes you kind of have to get over the dilution hurdle. But the research around nanomedicine, which is different from homeopathy, is very strong. And they’re beginning to realize that teeny tiny particles actually do trigger the immune system and do things. And so with that in mind, we kind of thought, they’re like, no, that’s not a problem for us. The dilution is not a problem.

Let’s look at the research. Definitely, more research is always needed, you know, but like, for example, research today will typically investigate one thing, like, does this medicine help with headaches, for example, one thing. But what’s really beautiful about homeopathy is that the main targeted symptom might improve, but also other symptoms that you weren’t expecting might improve. Back to my bladder story.

I was given a remedy. My bladder started to improve. And this is kind of embarrassing, but I had a wart on the bottom of my foot for like 15 years that I got when I was a high school track person, you know, walking in the locker room. I named him Fred because I was like, well, he’s here to stay, you know? And as my bladder improved one night, I took my sock off and I was like, Fred, you’re leaving. And he disappeared as my body found balance and health for my bladder.

So the beauty about homeopathy is really the whole person. So while the targeted symptom, let’s say headache, improves, you might find that you’re sleeping better at night too, you know? So, and that’s something that research typically doesn’t target. And the NCCIH was talking about how they’re wanting to do more research that looks at these kinds of more holistic effects that it has on the body.

Mr. Jekielek:

So, no, I mean, this is absolutely fascinating. Well, I mean, I’ve just really enjoyed this conversation. This is my first real foray into homeopathy, although I’ve heard about it from a number of people who really have managed to help themselves, and some even became practitioners of it afterward when they realized how much it had helped them. So final thought as we finish.

Ms. Brown:

Support our legislation, go to homeopathychoice.org and in two seconds, you can write your member of Congress. We would love that support.

Mr. Jekielek:

Because if I may just say, literally no homeopathic remedy has side effects.

Ms. Brown:

No.

Mr. Jekielek:

So you could just like take it.

Ms. Brown:

If you take the wrong one, it won’t be a problem in homeopathy. In any medicine, if you keep taking repeated doses of something that’s not helping or not working, it can cause some transient symptoms that wear off. So I teach people that once you start a remedy, do like three to four doses throughout the day and look for improvement. If you’re not improving, it’s probably not helping. So just stop. It’s not like vitamin C.

Mr. Jekielek:

Sorry to jump in. It’s just that my point is the risk around this tends to be on the low end.

Ms. Brown:

Yes, it tends to be really minimal, and really people, what they would like, and that’s really like if you’re taking it for days and days, multiple times a day, and it’s not helping. But like during that first day, take three to four doses, see if it’s helping. As you improve, reduce the frequency of how often you’re taking it, and it works great.

Mr. Jekielek:

So you’re saying you should do it yourself, or should you go with the homeopath here?

Ms. Brown:

Do it yourself if it’s acute. Go to the, you know, Sprouts, the natural grocers, and buy a remedy that kind of fits what you need. If you have chronic conditions like eczema, chronic headaches, chronic coughs, autoimmune stuff like I did, you’re going to want to work with the homeopath. But yes, it’s very safe, and you could eat the whole bottle, and you’re still not going to have any toxic effect. With homeopathy, you have to take it and simulate that immune system to respond, take several doses. So I like to say four throughout the first day. Look for some improvements to see if your immune system is going to respond in the way that you want it to.

So go to homeopathychoice.org. Write to your members of Congress. Support this, even if you’re not familiar with homeopathy but just want access to a medicine that maybe you’re going to need in the future. Support this. Then go to the Council of Homeopathic Certification if you want to find a directory to find a homeopath to help you with your chronic stuff. But it is truly wonderful medicine. It’s the first thing we go to. I could tell you story after story.

I'll tell you one more. We have a dog who one day, we just moved into a home, and we found little cubes of rat poison all over from the previous owner, which kind of freaked me out. Like, do we have mice? But we didn’t. So we were cleaning out around that time. My dog came and was vomiting profusely. I think he got some and ate a little bit of it, but he was vomiting profusely and very, very sick.

I gave him one remedy, and he didn’t respond to it. He was starting to shake and tremble and just did not look good. I gave him a new remedy; by now it was like three in the morning, I was exhausted, the dog was exhausted. I gave him a few doses of that and decided to go lay down for a couple of hours, and I would check on him, hopefully finding him alive when I woke up.

A couple of hours later, I opened my door, looked downstairs, and there was Scout looking up at me, wagging his tail, just feeling 100 percent better. I fed him food and water, and he’s with us still today. Homeopathy is just so wonderful; it takes a little bit of learning how to do it, you know. I actually have a holistic health science curriculum where we teach families and moms how to look at health, teach their kids about health, and learn homeopathy on my website paolabrown.com We’re really working hard to protect your access through that legislation.

Mr Jekielek:

Wonderful. Well, Paola Brown, it’s such a pleasure to have had you on.

Ms. Brown:

Thank you so much. I’ve loved this conversation. Thanks for having me.

This interview was partially edited for clarity and brevity.