California’s push to phase out fossil fuels has accelerated the closure of the refineries that still supply fuel to its military bases, airports, and 40 million drivers. If the plan is to move away from oil, what happens to everything that gets made from it before it ever reaches a gas pump?

In this episode, Ronald Stein, author, columnist, and founder of PTS Advance, and Deborah Sivas, Luke W. Cole professor of Environmental Law at Stanford, examine what refinery closures actually mean for California’s fuel supply and whether the transition plan accounts for all the oil produced beyond gasoline.

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